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Andy's MIB (man in black) Man Experience

Dec 7, 1991

Andy’s MIB Man Experience

Andy was keyboard player with C.E.IV for a number of years. It was during this time that he had an unusual experience in a busy shopping area in the centre of Glasgow. Andy will relate the following incident in his own words. Notes were taken just hours after the event.

The date was Saturday the 7th of December 1991 approximately 3.30pm. I was doing some Christmas shopping with my wife and young son. After some initial shopping I eventually parked the car in Argyle Street in Glasgow city centre. This is a busy shopping area and more so at this time of year. Traffic was busy and pedestrians were rushing around in all directions. It was cold and damp with the streets still wet from earlier drizzle.

My wife visited shops nearby leaving my 3 week old baby son and me waiting in the car. The car was parked with passenger side next to the pavement facing traffic flow direction. My son was in a child safety seat next to me in front of car. He was awake and I was amusing him with a toy rattle, in doing so I was leaning across facing rear of car.

After about 5 minutes or so I got this strong urge to turn and face the windscreen. I was completely aware that it was imperative that I do so. I knew I was to turn round and I knew I was to see what is commonly called a MIB. Yet seconds earlier, before I got the urge to turn, seeing a MIB was the last thing on my mind. It was quick, turn look and bang, there’s a MIB just like I knew there would be!

He was already on the road directly in front of the car bonnet. He headed round the car near to my door and off out into the middle of the road. I froze I could only move my head and shoulders. Turning and watching as best I could, I lost him between my side window and rear door window as he passed behind the door pillar. He didn’t appear after door pillar in rear window.

The sighting seemed to last 15/20 seconds. I would describe a man about 5’ 5 inches. He was wearing a 40s style black trilby with a black shiny ribbon. His coat like a trench coat style was definitely ‘dark blue’. (I should note if its any significance, my car is med blue with blue tinted glass). His arms were straight down at his sides not moving and his head remained fixed on his course. It was like he was floating round the car. I didn’t see legs at this point and there were no normal walking movements. His face was pale and gaunt, deep set eyes, no sign of lips, no hair and no ears were seen at the rim of the hat. His face had no expression, like a shop window mannequin. My eyes were constantly fixed on his the whole time.

There was no sound and I was fully aware that the street had become void of traffic and pedestrians. I couldn’t see any buildings either during the incident.

From the shoulders down I froze but my mind was doing overtime. I just kept thinking, ‘Bastards catching me unprepared’, ‘It’s a MIB and its just sailing along so close, and there’s nothing I can do’. I was not in control of the situation and extremely angry at myself for allowing this to happen. Right now in this busy street he has a go at me! I just wanted to chase after him but was frozen. I began shaking with anger knowing it had taken a liberty.

Once out of sight I immediately turned toward my son (to see if he was OK!). He was sitting quite content as before looking ahead at windscreen. As I looked at him it was as if everything was switched back on. The noise, traffic and throngs of shoppers just appeared instantly. About 15 minutes later my wife returned to the car. I related the whole experience to her. She just stared at me then complained about the queues in the stores!

On Reflection

Looking back I still remember details of that day and I’m as convinced now as I was then that this was definitely one of those Mib men similar to what others have witnessed. I have spent long hours with the other band members in the hills sky watching for that elusive UFO and I get this entirely unexpected and out of place MIB brushing past my car in a busy crowded city street!
Being believed is obviously a problem as I’m into Ufology and in the band. I really honestly don’t care if I’m believed or not! I know myself I did see this! If I was ignorant of the whole MIB scenario, would I have seen it at all? Did this MIB know I was in a band promoting Ufology? When I got the urge to turn and look was it because I had some knowledge about them? Was this ‘thing’ watching me and my baby son playing in the car for a period of time and only moved because I turned and faced it? Was I warned and urged to turn and face it? I will never be happy with the situation. I do need some answers. My questions will never be ‘Do these MIBs exist?’ I know this strange being is out there! I would ask ‘What the hell was it doing at my car on that particular day?’

Some strange events have taken place since my experience. One occurred almost immediately after. I met up with two of the band members in their home around 4.50pm on that same day. I was telling them what happened and I must be honest, although they listened carefully I don’t think they believed me at first. He advised I note everything that occurred and I did so at once. The strange bit is one of them was completing some artwork on his amp flight case. Within the last couple of hours he was putting finishing touches to artwork of an Egyptian Goddess called Hathor. I asked why an Egyptian and he explained he saw her in a book and thought she was colourful and was the Goddess of musicians and protector of infants! Both of us went very quiet at the same time. When he was painting her my son and myself, musician and infant, were facing a MIB! It definitely blew our brains when we sat down and thought about it. He has painted most of the flight cases with scenes of Socorro, Flight 19 etc but then an Egyptian Goddess? In my opinion it’s a little more than coincidence. She was a reality to the Egyptians and she is now a reality to C E IV. More questions arise from this chapter. Two months later we were at Reading recording Shadow of Man I asked Shelagh Gill had she heard of Hathor. She replied ‘Oh yes she is the goddess of musicians and infants’. I still have more questions and wonder will I ever get the answers to them!

Exactly as it happened,

Summing up by Brian Snr

I remember that day very well. Andy came in and I was completing the artwork of the Goddess Hathor. I found her in a book and thought she was very colourful. She would be an interesting subject for the flight cases.

I wouldn’t doubt Andy’s word but I found it hard getting my head round the fact that a MIB would appear in such a busy thoroughfare and what was the message it was conveying? Seemingly in past cases a verbal message of sorts is delivered!

Andy had no doubts whatsoever and his enthusiasm gathered momentum as time passed. He was serious and worried. I believed him but the question was why had it appeared on that particular day?

It seems obvious however that one thing stood out. There was a definite parallel between the sighting and the Egyptian goddess Hathor. Why the goddess got mixed up during a MIB sighting I cannot say but in a strange way she obviously did. Was it in a protective way, she is referred to as ‘Protector of Infants’ after all.

I often wonder if indeed another world does exist out there somewhere and we only glimpse it very rarely. If this is true then it would certainly explain a lot of what’s happening to witnesses during sightings and the unexpected manner in which they occur.